Canon EOS 30 / 33 / Elan 7(e)
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| Pro | metal-body; low mirror, motor - and shutter noise; MLU; TTL-flash-capabilities; very good price-performance ratio; non-EOS-lenses can be used in manual mode (some AF-Nikons do not accept lenses without chip!) | ||
| Contra | no genuine spot-metering; no microprism/split-image on focusing screen | ||
| Thoughts | The EOS 33 V is my least noisy SLR( a definite plus for wildlife). After long use of F-1 and AE-1P the AF- and TTL-flash-capabilities are a much welcomed progress. | ||
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| Pro | very quiet shutter and motor!!!
4 fps (actually, about 4 1/2-5fps with optional battery pack and rechargable NIMH's) terrific evaluative metering ETTL enabled body BLACK!!! | ||
| Contra | 'strobing' AF assist
low light AF is very unreliable small and dim viewfinder | ||
| Thoughts | unlike most, I won't complain about the lack of a spot meter. the partial works just fine for me.
What I WILL complain about, is the fact that Canon made a body that is perfectly suited for low light and candid photography (very quiet and low profile black body), but provided the camera with the worst viewfinder. Very dim, with almost NO WAY to confirm focus. That, and the horrid AF in low light, means that when the shutter speeds drop to 1/60th with 800 speed film, you can forget about focusing, unless you feel like startling everyone with that wonderful strobing AF assist light emitted from the flash. On the plus side, the body is about a perfect size, is THE QUIETEST motor drive camera ever made, and with good light, has very quick and accurate AF over the 7 point spread. | ||
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| Pro | Queit Camera
Metal Shell Top Price Mirror Lock-up Cn-F4 feature Weight Accurate Evaluative Metering Good Auto Focus | ||
| Contra | Partial Metering - No Spot Metering
Small button DOF Preview Odd Switch-On button placement. Auto Focus is hunting in low light conditions. It is required to use flash with beam assistant. Backlit of LCD. | ||
| Thoughts | It is very nice camera for good price. It has everything for the advanced user. Evaluative 35 segments metering is accurate. It is extremely quiet.
I wish it could have spotlight metering, AF beam assistant, waterproof and dust sealing, less plastic, bigger button DOF preview, dedicated switch-on button, backlit of LCD, 100% Viewfinder coverage. But it's gonna to be EOS-3 or even EOS-1V for $850-1500. My Summary: for the paid money I don't have complaints at all. | ||
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| Pro | - Ergonomics (with the BP-300)
- 4 fps - 1/4000 shutter speed - analog-style exposure indicator at bottom is nice - quiet, quiet, quiet... only the faint click of a mirror slap is heard, rewind and advance are nearly silent. Lost count of my exposures one time, reached the end, and didn't even notice it was rewinding! - really has a nice look and feel to it (personal opinion, but important to me!) | ||
| Contra | *** All of these (I believe) could have been fixed by Canon had they put the money into the following features instead of adding the idiot modes. Users of this camera should not need the idiot modes...
-> No spot meter (10% is FAR too big, more like a center-weighted metering) -> AF really poor in low light (go to manual focus...) -> Terrible AF assist (I use my 420 EX for this instead of stupid flash) -> LED not backlit, need a small flashlight for night shoots -> Can't use IR film (all Canon EOS cameras suffer from this - the film advance uses a red LED which fogs the film) | ||
| Thoughts | Overall, really nice camera, although as I mentioned in CONTRA, the only faults it has could easily have been remedied by dropping the idiot modes from the production and concentrating on the more advanced features like spot metering and IR AF assist
- You really need the BP-300 to appreciate this camera (and to be able to use AA batteries instead of those stupid ones) - Don't touch the crappy kit lenses they try to sell with it, go for the 28-105 f3.5 (not the new crappy kit f4 version) or the 28-135 IS AND get the cheap 50mm f/1.8 (for 1/3 the price of the 1.4 and virtually the same image quality, I can spare a 1/3 stop loss) - did I mention it was quiet? -> My rating is 7.5 or 8 out of 10, depends on the day and the type of shooting I am doing at the time. I chose it over the Nikon N80/F80 and a used Nikon N90 and have not been disappointed by anything except the spot metering | ||
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| Pro | * Fastest AF performer in it's class
* Very good ergonomics * Very easy handling of almost all exposure settings with 1 hand. Virtually no need to take your eye away of the viewfinder. * Really like the red illuminating AF spots compared to the competitive Nikon F80 * 7 AF points * Very fast and silent motor-drive for it's class. * Lots of advanced features and customization settings: Mirror lockup, programmable buttons etc. * Eye Control works quite well even with me wearing glasses (EOS 30 model). * Good overall construction quality. * Low weight for those like moving a lot. | ||
| Contra | * Could have a less "plastic" feel...
* Could use a better AF assist method than the default flash-strobe burst. It's really annoying for people. * Shouldn't be sold as a kit with the cheap 28-90 USM lens. It's just not fair for such a nice body. * DOF preview button is hard to find but you can get used to it after a while. * No true-Spot metering * Non illuminating main LCD screed compaired to the competition. | ||
| Thoughts | I would consider the Canon EOS 30/33 a "best bye" in it's class. A perfect tool for the advanced amateur and a good 2nd body for a Pro. | ||
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| Pro | - really silent film transport and shutter
- reliable AF and exposure - very good handling - solidly built | ||
| Contra | - no real spotmeter | ||
| Thoughts | This is the perfect camera for me. It fits nicely into my hands (I have the BP-200 attached), exposures are spot-on, autofocus is quick. Great performer with loads of features -- I love it. | ||
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| Pro | Almost silent.
Fast and reliable AF in good light conditions. Reliable exposure metering even in low light. Depth of field botton preview. 4 fps motor speed. | ||
| Contra | Worse ergonomic than the old 50/50E (the exposure mode selection is too complicated).
Terrible flash AF auxiliary light. Worse Af than the old 50/50E in low light conditions. It looks less solid than the old 50/50E. Still no AF with f/4 lens and Canon 2X. 1/125 x-sync. (for this pice, I would expect more). Still no external flash connection. Still no spot indicator in the viewfinder (that's really crazy...) | ||
| Thoughts | If you don't find very very useful a depth of field botton preview or a 4 fps quiet camera, there's no reason why you should upgrade.
In my opinion, this time Canon really missed the occasion to create a great camera. Let's wait for the 33V... | ||
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| Pro | ~Very comfortable
~Super fast ~Solid Proformance ~Great features to price ratio ~It takes great pictures! | ||
| Contra | ~Super dumb AF assist stobe. People think I took the picture when I'm still focusing!
~The eye control didn't work with my glasses. But I just saved some bucks and go the regular 7. No biggie. | ||
| Thoughts | This is one rockin camera! I spent the extra bucks and got a Canon 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5. Great all round lens and super quiet. I'm gonna get a 50mm f/1.4 for Christmas, so that should be sweet. I also got a BP-300 battery pack. It's great being able to use AA and it makes the film advance a speedy 4 fps. It also makes the camera look badass. Me likes! Like I said, great camera for the advanced amature. Great design and tons of features at a price that won't break your heart. | ||
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| Pro | - Silent and fast film advance.
- Built quality is very good. - True mirror lock up. | ||
| Contra | - DOF preview button is TOO small!
- BP300 doesn't have a dial. - LCD is not illuminated. Hard to set AEB & metering mode in the dark | ||
| Thoughts | After using it intensively for two years, the small size of DOF preview button is the only feature I still can't bear with.
I read people complaining about the AF performance in low light but in my experience, when the AF becomes sluggish, the light level is too low for photographing moving objects, I would need a tripod, remote release and focus manually. Overall, it's a nice camera body I'd give it a 4 out of 5 rating. | ||
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| Pro | - Fast Autofocus
- Quick and silent motordrive - Soft mirror + lockup - Great e-ttl flash system - Functional Eye Control | ||
| Contra | - Min flash sinc. 1/125 (minolta Dynax 7 has 1/200)
- Not weather-proof | ||
| Thoughts | I've had an EOS 300 for 2 years now and I was definitely feeling uncomfortable for a long time. I waited till I had more money to get a 28-105 3.5-4.5 USM II lens instead of that horrible "thing" they sell bundled with it (28-90USM) and kept the EOS 300 as a backup. I haven't shot very much yet but there is one thing I can say right now: there is a world of a difference between these bodies. I especially appreciate the soft mirror & mirror lockup function. The vibrating mirror in my EOS 300 would effectively spoil any picture i took from 1/30 to 1/4 sec.
The Eos 30 was bundled with a german manual. I'd be very grateful if someone could send me a copy in english. | ||
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| Pro | 1. Incredibly silent.
2. Tons of custom features. 3. Mirror Lock Up. 4. I love the control dial on the back of the camera - much easier than messing around with buttons to control aperture settings. 5. Small enough to be unobtrusive. | ||
| Contra | 1. The AF-burst in low light can be a shocker. | ||
| Thoughts | I've had 1 Elan 7 for a year now and have absolutely loved it. So much, in fact, that I was considering an EOS 3 and making the Elan 7 my 2nd body....instead I decided to get a 2nd Elan 7. Who needs the weight, noise and cost of an EOS 3 when the Elan 7 pretty much does the same thing. A great camera! | ||
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| Pro | Fast AF, lite, good picture quality, silent. | ||
| Contra | No sealing against rain or dust, no spot meter. | ||
| Thoughts | Good value for you money! | ||
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| Pro | Extremely silent mirror, shutter and wind noise. Absolute silent rewind. Excellent AF tracking as good as the Eos-3 with fast lenses f/2.8 or f/4 and faster. Lovely to handle and use. Very responsive. ECF works very well. | ||
| Contra | Horrible "AF-assist" which is nothing more than bursts from the internal flash which will scare everyone including the photographer. No IR focus assist. No spot metering. | ||
| Thoughts | I love this camera. I upgraded from the EOS-50E and it is definitely a positive step. I shoot a lot of flash situations so this camera performs excellently with multiple flash with ratio controls. I use a 550EX, 420EX and Sigma 500 as my light sources and it works fantastic. Flash features as good as the EOS-1V/3. | ||
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| Pro | - Feels pretty solid with Aluminium outer shell & metal mount
- Love the FEL function! - Quiet operation (with USM lenses) - The price is good for the performance offered - Looks good (personal taste and unimportant) - Fast film advance - Good continuous AF - Mirror lock up with RC-1 remote control is great! | ||
| Contra | - ECF isn't very reliable for moving objects
- DOF button is TOO small and isn't easy to reach!! - Changing metering mode can't be done in a fraction of a second - Battery chamber cover looks really flimsy. - AF capability at low light is near to useless. | ||
| Thoughts | EOS30 is overall a good camera. It has performance to price ratio. It's good for flash work. Nevertheless, there are rooms for improvement on this body.
I will rate it 8/10 | ||
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| Pro | 1- Silent
2- 4 fps 3- Ergonomics 4- BP-300 is a must 5- Cost effective | ||
| Contra | 1- Partial metering no less than 10%
2- Very bad AF in low light conditions | ||
| Thoughts | I like it a lot. I'm very comfortable with my EOS 33. I only miss the lack of spot metering | ||
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| Pro | solid, easy to handel, specialy with the extra Grip, quiet.
nice features; dubble exposure, mirror lockup, flash exposure control, second curtain flash and more Good eyecontrol | ||
| Contra | slow a.f. at low lights, 1 stop under exposure, 10% partial metering, 4 sec. lockout at AEL. exposure compensation
in only 2 stops and only adjustable in 1/2 stops i like to see 3 stops in 1/3 stops increments. terrible figures imprinted in your negative when using a date back. lack of recording exposure data (shutter speed , diaphragma, flash) a bit small for larger hands | ||
| Thoughts | Good ergonomics, nice to handle and quiet with nice features also for macro.
A pitty about the date-back. good prizing. Go for the extra powergrip. | ||
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| Pro | -Quiet -Light weight -Effective Eye Control function -Comfortable -Great body -Most of all, the price is unbeatable! | ||
| Contra | -Annoying Flash AF burst -No spot metering -Slow focus at low light situations | ||
| Thoughts | I am new to photography and I am glad I bought the best deal! Why spend alot more for functions I can barely use? This is a great camera unless you expect a shutter speed of over 4000 and do alot a sport photography . It only supports up to 3.5 frames per sec . You be the judge | ||
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| Pro | - 'almost' perfect control layout - quiet - 7 AF points - not too many, but enough - into E-TTL flash system - 4fps built in - cheap accesorries: remote £20, battery pack £70 | ||
| Contra | - no spot meter, but the Eval zones are great - I'd put the metering selector back on the control dial wher it was on the EOS 50/Elan II - not 100% viewfinder - almost need the battery pack | ||
| Thoughts | - easy to switch between the 7 AF points manually (EOS 33/Elan 7) - so easy to switch mode, no need to scroll with the command dial - all laid out on one visible dial - I down graded from two EOS-1 bodies to two EOS 33 bodies to buy into the quiet operation, extra focus points and of course the E-TTL wireless flash system. - AF is fast - get this camera with a 28-135 IS and you may never need to change lens!!!!! - so nearly a Pro camera - this, in my opinion, is the BEST EOS Canon have EVER made. - I considered the EOS-1V and EOS-3 ... but went for the EOS 33 for the layout of controls, price and weight and cost of add-ons! - 2x EOS 33 with battery packs for the price of one EOS-3 and PB-E2 ... two bodies better than one - it is a JOY to use, the kind've tool you can rely on, no confusion or fuss over changiung any setting ... so you can get on with composition - PERFECT! | ||
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| Pro | Quiet 7 AF sensors Ergonomics Weight | ||
| Contra | Slow AF in low light. No Spot metering. | ||
| Thoughts | I am relatively new in photography. I bought this camera when I outgrew my Minolta Dynax 404si and you bet it's better by miles. I like the fact that it works perfectly with the 420EX flash unit! A worthwhile investment. | ||
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| Pro | 7 AF sensors E-TTL mirror lock-up up to 4 fps (it is very fast for a mid-class camera) | ||
| Contra | no AF assistance light.(it doesn't matter, just increase the AF time) | ||
| Thoughts | Today, I have bought a EOS 30. It is very very gd. I used my relative's EOS 5 before, I think it is much better than that. The EOS5 is a semi-pro camera. However it is a 10 years model. AF speed isn't as fast as EOS 30.(I use EF28-105 and EF28-70L to test). Eyecontrol works very well in the EOS30 but not the EOS5. It is very useful for me. The rewind speed of 30 is very fast indeed. It is much quiet than EOS 5 and EOS 300. The only thing that EOS 5 better than EOS 30 are the spot meter and the 1/8000 shutter. But it doesn't matter for my kind of shooting. | ||
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| Pro | ergonomy, price, aluminium body, mirror lock-up, eye control, fast servo AF, 7 AF sensors | ||
| Contra | no spot metering, silly AF assist, horrible 28-90 lens (often sold with body) | ||
| Thoughts | good value for this money, best with 50/1.4 USM lens. | ||
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| Pro | Very silent, soft mirror slap and silent rewind. True mirror lockup, DOF preview button, fully functional wireless flash with ST-E2/550EX and slave flashes, including flash ratio control. Fires modeling flash with 420EX/550EX. On camera flash for emergencies. ECF which actually works. | ||
| Contra | Extremely irritating flash burst AF-assist. | ||
| Thoughts | I downgraded from an EOS-3 to the EOS-30. The EOS-3 was just too noisy, big and heavy for my kind of shooting. The 3 was great with the PB-E2 when I was shooting birds with big fat L lenses, but times have changed and so have my shooting interests. Before the 30 came out, some of the reasons I stuck with the EOS-3 are its true mirror lockup, accurate AF tracking, excellent AF, and neat flash functions (FEL, modeling flash, etc). The EOS-30 has everything I need : silent and soft operation, true MLU, nifty flash features, and light weight, in addition to being black instead of silver coloured like the EOS-50 or 300. The only blemish on this otherwise perfect camera is the extremely irritating flash burst AF-assist (which can be disabled). The decision to get an EOS-30 was made when I was shooting orchids at an orchid garden. I suddenly came across a small red sunbird just 10" away from my camera. Unfortunately it was heavily backlit and a spot of flash would have done wonders. My flash was off my EOS-3 in my bag, and there was no time to set it up. Shot a few frames, but as expected, the shots were awful. The EOS-30's built in flash would have come in very handy at times like this. The EOS-30 to me is Canon's most perfect camera. It handles like silk - quietly and easily. Thanks to the small size, I can take it everywhere in my Lowepro waist pack and still not feel the weight, unlike the EOS-3. Oh, and I can take a whole series of pics of my sleeping baby daughter without waking her up (the EOS-3's rifle-shot sound woke her up in no time). Another great thing about the EOS-30 is the eye controlled focus, which actually works. With the EOS-50E I had partial success. With the EOS-3 it was a major struggle - couldn't even calibrate it for a long time, and success was no more than 50-60%. With the EOS-30, ECF calibration was easy, and it works perfectly more than 95% of the time. ECF response is very fast compared to the EOS-50E/3 so it's actually useable in real life! On my earlier EOS-50E and the EOS-3, ECF used to be permanently off, but not so on the EOS-30. Cool job, Canon. | ||
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| Pro | 1. Fast film advance! 2. Good price/performance ratio 3. Plenty of useful features (DOF, 2nd curtain sync, fast shutter speed flash) | ||
| Contra | 1. Eye control doesnt work well with left eye (I tried to calibrate at least 8X without luck) 2. Custom function should display abbreviations not numbers only!! | ||
| Thoughts | Very very good camera for the price. Eye control needs improvement though. I still have some problem even with right eye even after many calibrations. Maybe because my oriental eyes are too small?? Hint anyone? | ||
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| Pro | almost silent film advance and soft mirror, AF sensors blink while being used, film-end left outside the cassete after being wound backward, | ||
| Contra | lack of AF-infrared-assistance, really annoying way of switching between metering modes, lack of a spot-metering mode, lack of film winding until the chosen place, inaccurate AF while low-light condition, far insufficient stiffness of the BP300 grip - forget useing the grip and a tripod at the same time. | ||
| Thoughts | no better choice for the money, at the moment | ||
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| Pro | 7 af sensors fast comfortable sexy | ||
| Contra | focusing sluggish in low light, though seems to be getting better??? | ||
| Thoughts | compared to other slrs in this price range the ergonomics are perfect for me.controls very visable at a glance.one hell of a sexy piece of kit. | ||
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| Pro | Solid camera with a lot of features, like DOF preview and mirror lock-up. Operates fast ( 4 fps) and silent . Additional battery pack for AA sized batteries available Controls are easy to understand when changing from another CANON model to this one. Good value for money. | ||
| Contra | In combination with manual lenses (m42) it underexposes heavily for unknown reasons. This can be compensated by adjusting film speed, e.g, down to 10 ASA when using a 100 ASA film. The stroboscope light for autofocusing in darkness is somewhat strange, I“d prefer IR beam as in EOS 10 . With all the controls and the "joystick" on the backside, it doesn“t appear to be rain- & weather-proof. | ||
| Thoughts | Nice camera, makes a good impression after shooting the first 60 rolls of film. Good ergonomics, correct metering and appears not as fragile as, e.g., EOS 300. | ||
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| Pro | DOF button Good Matrix Solid build, fast FPS, Damped mirror Diopter correction | ||
| Contra | No AF assist Difficult mirror lock-up access Way too many things are done through CF: have to carry CF sheet all the time. Not so with EOS 50. | ||
| Thoughts | An upgrade of the 50 in some ways, a step down in other ways... Metering is good, generally performs well. Lens line is the major asset. | ||
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| Pro | Metal top & front cover,sturdy build .great low price. feels great in your hand with BP300 grip. | ||
| Contra | REAL SLUGGISH AUTOFOCUS. Has major problems in low light. | ||
| Thoughts | I really thought the world of this camera till I tried a maxxum 7, and a maxxum 9 .this is still a great camera. I will keep it for a back up to my minolta m7 | ||
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| Pro | 1. Complete quit operation 2. manual af point selection 3. Good ergonomics 4. Does almost anything one can need, and more. 5. predictable metering | ||
| Contra | 1. Battery indicater; should offer a warning when going low instead of a gross "full to empty" scale 2. 30s maximum metering time (1-2 minutes would be nice) 3. Custom functions should be labeled with mnuemonics instead of numbers for easy access without the manual 4. It should offer custom function to tie the MLU to the timer only 5. AF assist light can't be completely turned off. 6. DOF button very small 6. A reset to your original "preset" features would be VERY handy. | ||
| Thoughts | I'm a relative newbey to AF cameras (~8mo) previously owning an 0m-2n (15 years). The 2n allowed for metering up to 2 minutes; even though you can only manually select 30s. I also liked the MLU tied to only the timer so I don't have to remember to go into the cfn mode and change it. I also wish the battery indicator would do something intrusive (like put a B in the viewfinder) rather than finding out when they're past needing changed. Even though I have some beefs, most are getting used to a "computerized" camera! After shooting with other people with various brands and models, I'm all the more pleased this was the one I chose! So I would definately get it again. | ||
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| Pro | 1. Traditionally great for EOS ergonomics. 2. Partially metal shell. 3. Quiet and fast film advance. 4. Well dumpened mirror slap. 5. Diopter adjucement. 6. Greatly inmproved manual selection of AF points - via directional keys. 7. Dedicated DOF button. 8. Accurate exposure. 9. Great optional vertical grip. 10. E-TTL with multi-flash cabilities. | ||
| Contra | 1. No spotmeter. 2. Really annoying strobe AF light. 3. Compared to Elan II, the selection of metering modes has become more complex and less intuitive. 4. I said in Pro's that mirror operation in Elan 7 is very soft, but its not as soft as in Nikon N80. 5. Very frustrating Canon tradition to make viewfinders without high eye point relief. Elan 7 is no exception here, hence a hint for eyeglass wearers: have a look at Nikon bodies first. 6. Probably too light (for SLR) for handheld low-light shooting. | ||
| Thoughts | Despite the fact that this camera is essentially Elan II with some relatively minor improvements, I consider it as a very functional tool with almost all modern features currently available. In way, this is an excellent budget camera for action/sport shooting because of its fast film advance and ability to take USM image stabilized lenses. Also, Elan 7 is a great all-around and family SLR. | ||
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| Pro | Nice solid feel; weighty but not heavy. Also looks good; inspires a lot of confidence. Quiet. Fast and accurate AF. Sensible pre-set programmes and user-friendly controls; very comprehensive system. Fast "full auto" mode. Good value for money. | ||
| Contra | 4-second time-out on AE lock - very irritating. Intrusive AF assist with flash in low light; AF tends to hunt a bit. Unmodifiable pre-set programmes. A bit pricey compared to the EOS 300 (but, then again, a bargain compared to the EOS 3) | ||
| Thoughts | Very, very nice camera. In addition to all of the above, it even takes great pictures. :) | ||
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| Pro | solid, compact and good for amateurs and semi pro photographers | ||
| Contra | problem for left eye users problem with some SIGMA LENSES ( SIGMA PROBLEM ) | ||
| Thoughts | I have CANON EOS 33 for few weeks ago and I make some beautiful pictures but I lose my user manual and I don't remember how I can use all functions to obtain brilliant pictures in the future. I need some help to obtain another user manual in english because at home I have only user manual for EOS 500 and EOS 33 had different functions. Thank you. cristache | ||
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| Thoughts | I bought my ELAN7 to replace my EOS300.ELAN7 (or EOS33) is in fact a combination of EOS50 and EOS300.I'm VERY pleased with the camera. It works without ANY problems with my Tamron 28-300 lens and it is VERY FAST. (I compare this with a EOS50 with an 35-105 Ultrasonic lens). Much better in low light handling than the Nikon F50,F60,F70,F80. A very good camera for its price.Will be hard to beat ! | ||
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| Pro | -solid construction -easy handling -True MLU - in comparison with mirror prefire of EOS50 -Fast AF | ||
| Contra | -not so easy selection of metering mode - you have to pras button, then dial and then start meter - EOS50 is much better -"left eye" photographers could have problem with manual focusing point selection - conflict with nose -incompatibility with Sigma lens - can be fixed by Sigma -metering doesn't work well with manual lens (using M42 adapter). It looks like camera use exposure compensation around -3.5EV Why ???, because all other model does meter well. -if you press any button, although camera is OFF, some of the focusing points blinks. I dont now if it is OK or not, but I am sure it drains battery. | ||
| Thoughts | If I knew obout manual lens problem I wouldn't buy this one. I would probably go for Pentax MZ5N, or may be used EOS50. But if You don't want to use manual lenses you will be satisfied. | ||
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| Pro | Sturdy body. Very decent AF performance. Harmonic package with lots of features but still a very easy handling. Whisper-drive! | ||
| Contra | Partial meter instead of spot metering. Viewfinder could be a bit brighter. | ||
| Thoughts | Excellent camera for the price. | ||
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| Pro | Nice Camera.I had the Maxxum 7 and tried the ECF at a store and bought the camera. | ||
| Contra | I did however return it in 2 days. The autofocus with the new 28-200 USM was sluggish compared to the Maxxum 7 even with the 100-400APO which is not a really fast focusing lens. The Elan 7e was especially slow in the evening with low light. HOWEVER THE ECF IS AMAZING! I wish it was in the Maxxum 7. I think this is a really nice camera for an amateur but I kept my Maxxum 7 as that is actually far better! | ||
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| Pro | I'm very happy with the Elan30 | ||
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| Thoughts | compared all the "mid class" cameras out there and settled with the Elan30. Pound for pound it gives you the most bang for the buck and it's performance is excellent, so IMHO it is worth it! | ||
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| Thoughts | I have my EOS 30 for about a month now, and I took it on a vacation (in Denmark), where I took plenty of photos. I am really pleased with them, after I had only little opportunity to test it beforehand. I had some harsh lighting conditions due to the low sun even at noon, but the 30 coped well. It's really fun to use this fine camera, and I do not regret a single Mark I spent. | ||
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| Thoughts | I have an EOS30 for about two weeks now, and I am very pleased with it. Until recently I used the EOS 50E as my primary and the EOS300 as a backup body, but I replaced the 300 by the 30. Handling of the 30 is much the same as the 50's. (You can't seriously compare the 30 with the 300). As I wear glasses I had some trouble using eye controlled focusing on the 50E, but have no problem at all with the 30 after carefully calibrating it several times. The camera feels very responsive as it is reasonably faster than my 50E, and there is hardly any noise audible. My first two slide films were accurately exposed, I only used multisegment mode (the one marked "(.)"), and I tried shooting in high contrast conditions as well as against the sun and so on. It seems that metering is very reliable. As I haven't missed spot metering with my EOS 50E I think I will be well off with the same partial metering capability. Handling is better than with the 50E, especially the depth-of-field preview button ist much better than the 50E's solution, when you had to look into the upper left corner of the viewfinder. I am very pleased with my decision to buy an EOS 30. For me, this seems to be very much the camera that I always wanted. | ||
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| Thoughts | Recent findings on the EOS 7: After shooting a basketballl tournament this weekend with my new EOS7. Generally I am very pleased over my previous A2. Quality seems better, The program dial is sturdier and focus is faster. I am not convinced of the need of AI servo vs AI Focus, Perhaps basketball is a hard subject for predictive autofocus. The downside is that it seems to be a BIG battery hog. I used 4-AAs in the battery holder and the batteries pooped out after 7 36ex rolls. No on camera flash was used and I covered about 6 games. Spot metering is missed as well as a control dial on the ertical grip. Also needed is a control lock for all control dials but Canon doesn't see it yet. I love the light weight generally but on the 80-200 2.8 it is almost too light. Thanks for everyone's feedback that helped with my decision to buy. | ||
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| Thoughts | :) Elan 7 is noiseless compared to EOS 3. That thing sounds like a sledgehammer on the garbage can (not my words, but describes the shutter/mirror operation in Eos 3 very well) and jumps in hands when mirror flaps. Seriously, Elan 7 is a very quiet camera, better than its predessor, Elan II. I used to own Elan II, so I know exactly what I am talking about. | ||
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| Thoughts | Well, I have used my brand new EOS 30 for a while. This camera is really good and meets my expectations except one: Canon advertized it as a 'silent' and 'noiseless' camera. On my oppinion, it isn't. Mirror produces well audible 'klunk' when flipped and motor wind is not silent at all. May be I am overcritical, but it is seemed to be as 'noiseless' as my old EOS 500N. | ||
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| Pro | 1. New Elan has a metal outer shell. In contrast to one of previous posts I found a build quality and fit of details very good. 2. Whisper drive. Its a lot quieter than already quiet Elan II. Camera also can shoot about 4 FPS, which is nice improvement over older Elan. 3. 7 AF sensors. Dont care about horizontal ones, but vertical sensors is a nice thing to have. 4. Really soft mirror flap and quiet shutter. Compared to almost deafening shutter in Eos 3 its almost silent. Nikon N80 is even better in this respect. 5. Directional AF sensor switch (joystick). I think its more convenient than Eye control. 6. Nice AF speed, maybe better than in Elan II. 7. Yay. A dedicated DOF button. 8. Read this one CAREFULLY. Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 HSM EX lens works with new camera flawlessly!!! 9. Convenient battery grip. Fits to the body snugly and feels sturdy. No duplicated main dial though. | ||
| Contra | 1. No spotmetering, again!!! I've used 9.5% partial for a long time, but I want that spot smaller. So, Canon thinks that I need to buy EOS 3 only for this purpose? 2. Red AF assist beam is gone - Elan 7 uses series of low power flash pulses instead. Dunno... 3. Control layout was changed. Not much, but watch what are you doing. 4. The motor for lifting of built-in flash is gone - use your finger instead. Maybe not a big deal, but leaves a feeling that Canon was saving money here. | ||
| Thoughts | I like it overall. Camera is pretty sturdy, well designed and feels more mmm& "agile" and responsive than Elan II. AF is very fast (what else do you expect from the Canon body?). In other words, its a very-very good amateur camera. Would I buy it? Yes. Especially if I need a new camera to start with, but I already have Elan II. Will I replace my older Elan with newer one? No. My photo activities beg for water sealing and spot metering (right, I need it for outdoor shooting). But, once again, for those who need a serious and affordable Canon camera to grow with, Elan 7 is a first place candidate. | ||